All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by lanza218 » January 11th, 2019, 12:22 pm

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The Being the Elite show would've been terrrrribbbllleee.

Opt out is interesting but, honestly, WWE could push them to the moon for those first 6 month then pull their typical bullshit with them in years two and three and they'd be stuck there.
Doubt it. E&C show is the best thing on the network even Hardy Halloween was great. If they are paying they wont hold back. Look at AJ and DB. High paid and that's for a reason.


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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by class316 » January 11th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Could all that be real? Has anyone ever been offered opt out deals by WWE?
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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by AJLe » January 11th, 2019, 2:30 pm

class316 wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 12:33 pm
Could all that be real? Has anyone ever been offered opt out deals by WWE?
I have no idea if it's real, but today's WWE contractual attitude is completely 100% different than what it was during the Monday Night Wars, or even 5-10 years ago. They've licensed TNA footage to air on Network shows, and when Omega first won the IWGP belt, they put up a Hidden Gem match on the Network of Omega winning a developmental match. So I don't think they're nearly as concerned about potential competing organizations as they were back in the day.

But even if it's true, I'm sure low-level NXT signees coming off the indies aren't getting offered opt-outs, but for top-level guys who can instantly draw money on the main roster, they probably figure that if that's what it takes to get them to sign, why not? It would be no different than big money free agents in baseball like Harper and Machado likely getting opt-outs or no-trade clauses in the deals they eventually sign. When you're in a position of leverage, you get contract perks that the average guy doesn't get.

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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by lanza218 » January 11th, 2019, 2:31 pm

Honestly dont believe so and if this was offered last year as they should have all these guys would be in wwe

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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by class316 » January 11th, 2019, 3:03 pm

AJLe wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 2:30 pm
class316 wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 12:33 pm
Could all that be real? Has anyone ever been offered opt out deals by WWE?
I have no idea if it's real, but today's WWE contractual attitude is completely 100% different than what it was during the Monday Night Wars, or even 5-10 years ago. They've licensed TNA footage to air on Network shows, and when Omega first won the IWGP belt, they put up a Hidden Gem match on the Network of Omega winning a developmental match. So I don't think they're nearly as concerned about potential competing organizations as they were back in the day.

But even if it's true, I'm sure low-level NXT signees coming off the indies aren't getting offered opt-outs, but for top-level guys who can instantly draw money on the main roster, they probably figure that if that's what it takes to get them to sign, why not? It would be no different than big money free agents in baseball like Harper and Machado likely getting opt-outs or no-trade clauses in the deals they eventually sign. When you're in a position of leverage, you get contract perks that the average guy doesn't get.
Vince still likely has fears that stem from when Rick Rude, Lex Luger, and Alundra Blayze screwed him. I don't think he would take a chance on opt outs. That's my opinion. They might not be as afraid of competition as they used to be, but pretty sure Vince and Triple H want to prevent another WCW from rising up.
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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by AJLe » January 11th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Vince basically signed Goldberg to a six month deal for his last run - not even an opt-out, just a deal where he KNEW that he was only coming on from like Survivor Series to WrestleMania. And he had him basically squash his most protected talent in Lesnar too - all knowing that six months from then, he could go work for another wrestling company.

It's not the 90's anymore - Vince is getting nine-figure checks from Saudi princes, he doesn't worry about stuff like this like he used to.

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Re: All Elite Wrestling Promotion Confirmed

Post by class316 » January 11th, 2019, 4:00 pm

AJLe wrote:
January 11th, 2019, 3:44 pm
Vince basically signed Goldberg to a six month deal for his last run - not even an opt-out, just a deal where he KNEW that he was only coming on from like Survivor Series to WrestleMania. And he had him basically squash his most protected talent in Lesnar too - all knowing that six months from then, he could go work for another wrestling company.

It's not the 90's anymore - Vince is getting nine-figure checks from Saudi princes, he doesn't worry about stuff like this like he used to.
Goldberg is also past his prime, not young and with a future ahead of him. So that can't be used as an example.

I also wonder if Vince will still hold events in Saudi Arabia now.
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